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McCain

Were They Left Behind

John McCain was released from captivity in Vietnam on March 14, 1973 along with 590 other men. There were still more men missing in action in Vietnam at that time. The Vietnamese were holding back approximately 1,205 other POWs hoping to use their release as a bargaining chip to get President Nixon to provide Hanoi with financial retribution for the war. President Nixon agreed to send the money and the Vietnam government not trusting the arrival of these funds, held onto the prisoners. The money was never sent and the POWs never returned.

The Pentagon had been withholding significant information from POW families for years. What’s more, the Pentagon’s POW/MIA operation had been publicly shamed by internal whistleblowers and POW families for holding back documents as part of a policy of “debunking” POW intelligence even when the information was obviously credible. The pressure from the families and Vietnam veterans finally produced the creation, in late 1991, of a Senate “Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs.” The chair was John Kerry, but McCain, as a POW, was its most pivotal member. In the end, the committee became part of the debunking machine.

Included in the evidence that McCain and his government allies suppressed or tried to discredit is a transcript of a senior North Vietnamese general’s briefing of the Hanoi Politburo, discovered in Soviet archives by an American scholar in the 1990s. The briefing took place only four months before the 1973 peace accords. The general, Tran Van Quang, told the Politburo members that Hanoi was holding 1,205 American prisoners but would keep many of them at war’s end as leverage to ensure getting reparations from Washington.

Throughout the Paris negotiations, the North Vietnamese tied the prisoner issue tightly to the issue of reparations. Finally, in a February 1, 1973, formal letter to Hanoi’s premier, Pham Van Dong, Nixon pledged $3.25 billion in “postwar reconstruction” aid. The North Vietnamese, though, remained skeptical about the reparations promise being honored (it never was). Hanoi thus held back prisoners–just as it had done when the French were defeated at Dien Bien Phu in 1954 and withdrew their forces from Vietnam. France later paid ransoms for prisoners and brought them home.

So what happened to these POWs that have become MIAs? President Reagan was sent a ransom proposal through a third country requesting $4 billion for the return of the remaining captive Americans. Nothing happened. No action was taken by our government.

Furthermore, over the years, the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) received more than 1,600 firsthand reports of sightings of live American prisoners and nearly 14,000 secondhand accounts. Many witnesses interrogated by CIA or Pentagon intelligence agents were deemed “credible” in the agents’ reports. Some of the witnesses were given lie-detector tests and passed. Sources provided me with copies of these witness reports. Yet the DIA, after reviewing them all, concluded that they “do not constitute evidence” that men were still alive.

There is also evidence that in the first months of Reagan’s presidency, the White House received a ransom proposal for a number of POWs being held by Hanoi. The offer, which was passed to Washington from an official of a third country, was apparently discussed at a meeting in the Roosevelt Room attended by Reagan, Vice President George H.W. Bush, CIA director William Casey and National Security Adviser Richard Allen. Allen confirmed the offer in sworn testimony to the Senate POW committee on June 23, 1992.

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McCain

Where’s the truth???

UPDATE – A Must Read Diary from Daily Kos.  Did John McCain knowingly leave POWs behind?

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Last evening, I was doing phone banking. One of the people that I contacted was a Vietnam Vet. He told me that he would never vote for John McCain and then he proceeded to tell me all sorts of stories about McCain’s military history and how Vietnam Vets dislike John McCain. I will not repeat the stories because it is hearsay. Later in the evening, I did an Internet search on John McCain’s military history and Vietnam Veterans. I was amazed at all the different opinions and stories about John McCain and his time as a POW. John McCain tells us one story about his experience. Other former POWs tell a different story about John McCain’s experience. After all the reading, I was left with the question, “Who is telling the truth?”. Someone is lying.

For the past several months, I noticed that John McCain has been lying about some issues. Here’s a sample of a few things that John McCain has been saying along with some links to other websites and videos.

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Barack Obama Videos

What are you waiting for…

This video is from the primary and I thought I would re-post it because the song is catchy and we need to get excited again.

It’s getting closer and closer to the general election and I will be busy volunteering for the Obama campaign so I might not be posting as much. I’ve been given the assignment of “data coordinator” which sounds like an important name but it’s just a title with a lot of work to do.

There is still a lot of work to do and the Obama campaign needs your help. Please consider volunteering. Even 1 hour/day or one or two evenings/week will be extremely helpful. Maybe you can help with voter registration on the weekend at a public event or at the local college or maybe you can do phone banking or like me, become a “data coordinator” 🙂 . Every little bit helps.

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Opinion

A noun, a verb and …

Rudy Guiliani – a noun, a verb and 9/11

John McCain – a noun, a verb and POW

John McCain’s over use of his POW status is becoming insulting to every other person that has ever been captured or tortured or restrained against their will… this includes other POWs, victims of kidnapping and I will go as far as to include victims of rape. It’s like he is the “only” person to have suffered some horrible fate and nobody else has ever suffered as much as him. Hum…

John McCain is starting to sound like a “whiner”, someone that wants us all to vote for him because he “suffered” so much for his country. If that’s the logic that the McCain campaign wants us to follow, then Max Cleland should still be a Senator from Georgia serving in the US Congress and the House Republicans should be praising John Murtha instead of attacking him.

Wesley Clark was correct when he stated that John McCain’s military experience isn’t something that would make him qualified to be president.

You see, it’s okay for Republicans to attack and lie about Democrats that have lost arms and legs fighting for this country and continue fighting for veterans. When it comes to the Democrats, they better not attack a Republican POW who may possibly be suffering from PTSD as evidenced by his anger issues, poor memory and confusion because that would be “unpatriotic”.

As a Patriot, I know that this is just more Republican hypocrisy.

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Open Thread Politics

Enhanced Interrogation

Recently, John McCain has been talking up the “crosses in the dirt” incident during his time as a prisoner of war. He then talks about his “long time standing” which was painful. As a prisoner of war, John McCain was beaten, refused medical treatment, forced into “stress positions” and sleep deprived. McCain supporters want us to believe that this is torture.

According to Erik Saar, author of “Inside the Wire”, sleep deprivation, long time standing, beatings and forced stress positions were common techniques used during interrogation of “enemy combatants” at Guantanamo.

Andrew Sullivan, at the Daily Dish, has this to say:

According to the Bush administration’s definition of torture, McCain was therefore not tortured.

Cheney denies that McCain was tortured; as does Bush. So do John Yoo and David Addington and George Tenet. In the one indisputably authentic version of the story of a Vietnamese guard showing compassion, McCain talks of the agony of long-time standing. A quarter century later, Don Rumsfeld was putting his signature to memos lengthening the agony of “long-time standing” that victims of Bush’s torture regime would have to endure. These torture techniques are, according to the president of the United States, merely “enhanced interrogation.”

No war crimes were committed against McCain. And the techniques used are, according to the president, tools to extract accurate information. And so the false confessions that McCain was forced to make were, according to the logic of the Bush administration, as accurate as the “intelligence” we have procured from “interrogating” terror suspects. Feel safer?

(emphasis is mine)

So who are we to believe? McCain? The Bush administration? Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey doesn’t think that waterboarding is torture. The Bush Administration considers all of these forms of torture to be nothing more than forms of “enhanced interrogation”.

(Video of waterboarding)

By using the “new” and “improved” definitions of “enhanced interrogation”, John McCain was NOT tortured by his captors. The Vietnamese were merely using “enhanced interrogation” techniques. I’m sure John McCain would support the definition, after all, he voted “yea” on the Military Commissions Act of 2006. Senator Barach Obama voted “nay”.

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Campaign Elections McCain military Open Thread

The Real John McCain

Do you want to know how other Vietnam Vets and POWs think and feel about John McCain? Is John McCain really a hero or just the self-centered son of a Navy Admiral that spent 5 years in a POW camp along with hundreds of other American POWs. Image and video hosting by TinyPic Dr. Butler wrote an article for Military.com about his experience as a POW and his experience as a freshman cadet at the navel academy during the time that McCain was a senior cadet.  According to people that know him, John McCain has always been reckless.  My guess is that John McCain has some very real anger issues.

Here’s a link to what other Vietnam Veteran POWs have to say about the real John McCain. It’s worth reading.

More on McCain and his involvement with the USS Forrestal fire in 1967.

John McCain was known to be reckless.  Reminds me of the boy Bush in his younger years.  The only difference is that John McCain served in Vietnam whereas the coward boy Bush decided Vietnam was something he wanted to skip participating in.